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Joan Marie Verba, Boldly Writing: A Trekker Fan and Zine History: 1967-1987 (Minnetonka, Minnesota: FTL Publications), 19, 22-23
Words We're Watching: A New Sense of 'Ship', Merriam-Webster, accessed Apr. 19, 2024
Jack Lipe Tang, March 2023, Shipping on the edge: Negotiations of precariousness in a Chinese real-person shipping fandom community, International Journal of Cultural Studies, 6(3), doi:10.1177/13678779231159148
Linda Kuo, Simone Perez-Garcia, Lindsey Burke, Vic Yamasaki & Thomas Le, 2022, Performance, Fantasy, or Narrative: LGBTQ+ Asian American Identity Through Kpop Media and Fandom, Journal of Homosexuality, 69(2), doi:10.1080/00918369.2020.1815428
Leora Hadas, March 2013, Resisting the romance: ‘Shipping’ and the discourse of genre uniqueness in Doctor Who fandom, European Journal of Cultural Studies, 16(3), doi:10.1177/1367549413476011
Rebecca Williams, May 2011, ‘Wandering off into soap land’: Fandom, genre and ‘shipping’ The West Wing, Participations, 8(1)

I hate how the mods keep changing the shipping image to the Mickey X Oswald

Are you guys actually homo I mean there's nothing wrong with being gay but all of you love changing it to that images and making admin abuse excuses even when there's a even more better image that's not copyrighted.

STOP ADMIN ABUSING ShadowDaLoser (talk) 23:29, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neither casual homophobia nor accusing people of "admin abusing" (in all-caps and bold!) is likely to persuade people to your point of view. The image you wanted to use in the article has been deleted for copyright reasons, so we clearly can't use that. What other image do you suggest would be better than the current one? Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 00:29, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are exactly right. The view of the user you are replying to is definitely not going to persuade people to change their opinions.--Historyday01 (talk) 03:07, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shipping doesn't have to be romantic.

On the actual article, it states that "the desire by followers of a fandom for two or more people, either real-life people or fictional characters (in film, literature, television series, etc.), to be in a romantic relationship." However, shipping is derived from the word 'relationship,' which is not always romantic. Sure, fandom shipping is USUALLY romantic, but that doesn't change the fact that relationships include siblings, parent and child, and literally friends. Not called a friend-SHIP for no reason, is it?

Not editing the original article because I don't want to cause an issue.

Sorry for being petty. I'm just trying to prove a point to someone. Cassidyspite (talk) 01:28, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I would say it generally does mean romantic, so I don't see a reason to change it. Historyday01 (talk) 13:15, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Friendships are a type of relationship, but "shipping" specifically refers to romantic relationships. It was originally coined specifically about a romantic relationship, and the sources cited in this article specifically say that it refers to romantic relationships. Possibly some people use the word more broadly but that would be a definite minority position and without sources discussing such a use we should not put it in the article. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 13:46, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Right, exactly. Historyday01 (talk) 20:58, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Real person shipping

Possibly this article should include something on real person shipping, and the problems with that. It doesn't seem to be mentioned outside the WP:LEAD. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could we change the main image?

We don't even have to remove the image from the article but I think we should pick an image that is better suited as the current one is the first thing you see when you hover over a link for this article. The image makes shipping in general to be way more lewd than it is and frankly kind of problematic as Mickey and Oswald are commonly considered brothers. DepressedChickenNugget (talk) 21:50, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have an alternative suitably licensed image that you think would be better? Frankly I'm struggling to think of a less lewd image which would be appropriate – they aren't even kissing! Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 22:06, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]